> Everyone complains that react is so slow and horrible, it isn't. It's their code that's slow and horrible, react is snappy as hell when you use it properly.

Why use something that you have to use "properly" when there are things out there that enforce being used properly?

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sfn42 5 days ago | parent [-]

Because I'm not convinced there exists a programming language/library/framework that you can't use improperly.

And just to be clear I'm not saying react is better than Vue. I don't know Vue. Maybe it is better. All I'm saying is react is alright in my experience, the problem is people overcomplicate and mess things up. I've seen that in pretty much every piece of software I've ever worked on, backend/frontend/whatever. So the claim that Vue just magically can't be messed up is difficult for me to believe.

	▲	zwnow 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		I can understand that. For me personally, Vue has a limited set of lifecycle hooks you can use so its hard to pick the wrong one. React on the other hand gives u some kind of use_ for everything, so its first and foremost harder to understand the app lifecycle and to pick the correct hook. With Vue I started to use Pinia for my whole apps state management, which are data stores. Clean and centralized logic, with React idk what a substitute would be. I know React can be clean too, but that (in my opinion) requires a lot more depth of knowledge about the framework.