99% of the population doesn't fall for scam apps outside the Play Store. They don't want to stop app scammers, because they don't have any issue with them. It's only a small minority which does, and which is supposed to justify the new restrictions in Android.

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that_guy_iain 6 days ago | parent [-]

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cubefox 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

The scams are also edge cases. Some people will always be stupid enough to hurt themselves with a a 99% safe system.

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that_guy_iain 5 days ago | parent [-]

No, they're not. And by saying that, you're proven why the "fight" will also result in the other side winning. Ignorant, pedantic, arrogant, and entitled technical people vs the rest.

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jamesnorden 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

99.9% of scams on Android/iOS happen by making people install remote assistance apps from... the "100% safe" app stores. So, no, you're completely wrong.

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cubefox 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Of course they are edge cases. How many people do you think install third-party apps on Android? Pretty sure hardly anyone does that.

Also, Windows works pretty well with software from third-party sources, or would you forbid them in Windows as well? Sure, there are the occasional crypto scams which disable a hospital here and there, but this can arguably be prevented by not giving non-admins admin permissions.

	▲	that_guy_iain 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		> Of course they are edge cases. How many people do you think install third-party apps on Android? Pretty sure hardly anyone does that. Yeah, which is why no one with any sense is going to be fighting againist this. Third-party installs on Android are largely scams. I don't think you've thought this through. > Also, Windows works pretty well with software from third-party sources, or would you forbid them in Windows as well? Windows is well known for being insecure compared to others. Apple have also worked to secure users against third-party apps. > Sure, there are the occasional crypto scams which disable a hospital here and there, but this can arguably be prevented by not giving non-admins admin permissions. Don't they use local privilege escalation attacks as part of the attack?

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const_cast 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Granny isn't installing unsigned binaries on her phone or rooting her phone. Don't bullshit us.

The reality is we don't need to fucking remotely rootkit someone's phone to scam them. This isn't how the vast, vast majority of scams are done.

Relying on client side trust is a recipe for disaster, any anyone even kind of technically minded should see that.

	▲	that_guy_iain 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		> Granny isn't installing unsigned binaries on her phone or rooting her phone. Don't bullshit us. Granny is when someone on the phone tells her how, because she needs to report some stuff to the FBI, IRS, etc.