| ▲ | _aavaa_ a day ago |
| Ridiculous argument. You didn’t buy a physical book, you bought the paper, but the words are owned and licensed by the publisher. You will need their permission to read it under an approved light, to sell it again, and even it lend it. Wrapping the bs in a thin veneer or “software” doesn’t magically make it okay. |
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| ▲ | b_e_n_t_o_n a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| You need their permission to copy it. You actually don't own the words. |
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| ▲ | ipaddr a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You do not need permission to read a book in your hands, lend it to a friend or sell it at your local bookstore. You are overly restricting yourself. |
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| ▲ | MereInterest a day ago | parent | next [-] | | You are correct that no such permission is required to use, lend, or resell a book. It would be unethical for a seller to impose a requirement for such permission. By the poster’s analogy, it is similarly unethical to impose a requirement for permission prior to the owner’s use, lend, or resale of a computer. Since Google sells computers that cannot later be used without Google’s permission, Google is imposing such an unethical requirement. | |
| ▲ | _aavaa_ a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That was not always the case. See older books that have legal hocus pocus written on the first page stating that you cannot resell this books without the express written consent of the publisher. Now we have the first sale doctrine for many physical items. It’s not being applied to digital goods since we buy a license to the thing instead of a copy of the thing itself; or so the companies want to argue. | |
| ▲ | const_cast a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yes that's his entire point. | |
| ▲ | isaacremuant a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Books can be made illegal. Stop giving in to authoritianism by licking proverbial boots and using their excuses for them. | |
| ▲ | GeoAtreides a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | ah, metaphors, gen z worst and least understood enemy |
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| ▲ | otterley a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > You didn’t buy a physical book, you bought the paper, but the words are owned and licensed by the publisher. Correct. > You will need their permission to read it under an approved light, to sell it again, and even it lend it. No. The physical media is transferable and the implied license carries with it. You just can’t make a copy and then retain it if you give the original copy away. |
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| ▲ | johnnienaked a day ago | parent | next [-] | | What you are allowed to do is governed by whatever laws are written. | | |
| ▲ | otterley a day ago | parent [-] | | This sounds like agreement. Otherwise I’m not sure what the meaning of this reply is. | | |
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| ▲ | _aavaa_ a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Incorrect. You own that entire physical copy, not a license to it. | | | |
| ▲ | lelandbatey a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Ah yes, copyright, where in its furthest future form says "though shall not remeber or recall anything anyone owns unless you pay for it again". I cant wait to pay Disney to remember movies from my childhood once we have a neuralink. |
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