  > whatsapp desktop requires a smartphone too

Just so you know, I don't use WhatsApp and find that today, everyone knows Telegram and many already have it installed. Moving to Telegram is completely feasible.

The Telegram desktop app does not require an active smartphone.

▲ jonathantf2 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

not in Europe - everybody uses WA here, work group chats, friends, parents, etc. My dad sometimes uses iMessage because he can’t see the difference between the icons but apart from that you’d get strange looks if you mentioned Telegram/Signal etc

	▲	AlexeyBelov 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		Depends on where in Europe :) Some parts use Telegram by and large.

▲ nesk_ 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I totally agree with you, but asking my friends to move to Telegram isn't easy. And multiplying the channels is a complex thing. Nowadays I have iMessage, Messenger, WhatsApp—I deliberately omit Slack and Discord—and sometimes I wonder "where is the discussion with friend X?"