| ▲ | ChrisMarshallNY 2 days ago |
| Up here, Sandy was a cat 2 or 3, but caused 70 billion dollars’ worth of damage, and killed a couple hundred people. Water did most of that damage. But about 30 years ago, Andrew swept across Florida like a giant roomba, and did a huge amount of damage. It was a cat 5. Wind did most of the damage. Not sure how they would reconcile these two types of mega-storms. |
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| ▲ | mapmeld 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Sandy was only a category 1 when it hit NYC. This was a wakeup call and part of why there's been years of rebuilding and hardening of NY and NJ infrastructure afterward https://blogs.law.columbia.edu/climatechange/2012/11/21/what... |
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| ▲ | Grazester 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Yep.It this did much damage because places so far North East never experienced storm and so they never built with that in mind. In place that experience this kind of weather more often(some parts of the Caribbean), it would have been business as usual the next day and I speak from experience. | | |
| ▲ | ChrisMarshallNY 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Not so sure about that. There’s been some nasty storms, up here. They just happen infrequently. What made Sandy so bad, was timing. It hit at high tide, and mixed with another storm. Also, geography. The Long Island Sound (the water between Long Island and Connecticut) can act as a “funnel,” that concentrates storm surges, if the wind is from the northeast, and there’s a number of waterways and estuaries, along the South Shore, that normally act as buffers, but actually turned into concentrators, with Sandy. Several seaside communities got all but wiped out, with boats being docked into the kid’s second-story bedroom. Southmost Manhattan is mostly reclaimed land. That is naturally prone to flooding. It also has some of the most expensive real estate in the world, so any flooding is guaranteed to be pricey. Because of the timing issue, I’m skeptical that anyone could predict how bad it got. | | |
| ▲ | Grazester 2 days ago | parent [-] | | And I would argue that even if that was the case, if these areas saw more storms, then the likelihood of this occurring would not have been so one-off. They would have built with that consideration. | | |
| ▲ | ChrisMarshallNY 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Possibly, but never underestimate the short-sightedness of real estate developers. In places like Florida, they force them to design storm-resistant housing (post-Andrew, mainly). Up here, after Sandy, any house south of Montauk Highway, is basically uninsurable. So you have a lot of waterfront property, that people can't sell. The insurance companies basically enforce it. My mother was big into managing stormwater runoff (in Maryland). It was one of her casus belli (She had more than one –She was pretty scrappy). Real estate developers hated her. |
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| ▲ | wmichelin 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It sounds like under the new ratings, both would be much closer together. It sounds like the water damage caused by Sandy is not articulated in the current rating system. So Sandy might work out to be a 4 or a 5? Not 100% sure of course, but that is my interpretation of the article. |
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| ▲ | js8 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Not sure how they would reconcile these two types of mega-storms. Maybe something like free energy in thermodynamics? |
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| ▲ | msla a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
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| ▲ | tomhow a day ago | parent | next [-] | | It's completely unacceptable to attack a fellow HN user like this, repeatedly over an extended period of time. It creates a feeling of stalking and persistent harassment, and we cannot let that kind of behaviour continue without consequence. We'll have to ban the account if it happens again. You've made plenty of positive contributions to HN, so we don't want to ban you, but this pattern of behaviour has to stop immediately and permanently. | | |
| ▲ | msla 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | This account has engaged in a pattern of harassment against me, but its harassing comments get deleted before moderators can notice, apparently. |
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| ▲ | ChrisMarshallNY a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Boy, you are obsessed. I guess I should be ... flattered? https://pinkpanther.fandom.com/wiki/Charles_Dreyfus But it's more likely that this is a simple insult bot, considering what it posts. | | |
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