| ▲ | layer8 3 days ago |
| > Note the difference between "where" and "such that". "Where" is used when the preceding notation is being defined; "such that" is used when it is already defined and its value is being restricted. I found this interesting. SQL and Swift use “where” for restrictions. Any other examples in programming languages? If a programming language wanted to use a keyword for restrictions that isn’t “where” (and still is a single word, hence “such that” doesn’t qualify), what word would be suitable instead? “With”? “Having”? |
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| ▲ | gizmo686 a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| Haskell uses where in the sense the article describes. E.g f x = y + 1
where y = 2 * x
Haskell also has a "let" notation f x = let y = 2 * x
in y + 1
> If a programming language wanted to use a keyword for restrictions that isn’t “where” (and still is a single word, hence “such that” doesn’t qualify), what word would be suitable instead? “With”? “Having”?If? Python does so with it's list comprehensions: [ x for x in range(100) if x % 2 == 0 ]
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| ▲ | kragen 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| LINQ uses "where". As for single-word alternatives, "if" is common. For example, in Python: >>> [(x, y) for x in range(10) for y in range(2, x) if x % y == 0]
[(4, 2), (6, 2), (6, 3), (8, 2), (8, 4), (9, 3)]
Common Lisp uses "if" but also uses "when": * (loop for x from 1 to 100 when (= x (expt (floor (sqrt x)) 2)) collect x)
(1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100)
Perl and Common Lisp both use "unless", of course with the sense inverted: DB<4> for (1..10) { print "$_ " unless $_ == int($_**.5)**2 }
2 3 5 6 7 8 10
SQL uses both "where" and "having". You could also reasonably use "suppose", "stipulate", "assert", "wolog", or "let". Lisp M-expressions (and, arguably, Dijkstra's guarded command language) used "→". |
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| ▲ | layer8 2 days ago | parent [-] | | For my second question I was actually more thinking of value constrains as type annotations. For example, something like struct S
{
x : num;
y : num;
where x < y
}
Meaning the compiler would statically verify that x < y for all instances of S at all times. Alternatively, you could also have: struct S
{
x : num;
y : num;
}
let s : S where s.x < s.y;
to only restrict a specific variable."If" wouldn't fit that use case, and neither would "when". I suppose "require" would work, but it also feels different from "such that". The intended meaning of the latter example would be "let s be an S such that s.x < s.y". "Given", as the sibling comment by hallole proposes, also doesn't fit. | | |
| ▲ | kragen 2 days ago | parent [-] | | A very interesting idea! A couple of functional languages use "when" in a similar way to introduce pattern-matching guards, but I haven't used any languages which support such a general facility for type declarations, though I suspect some dependently-typed languages do. I suppose that at least you would need to limit the condition to terminating computations to be able to verify it at compile time, and perhaps restrict mutation somewhat. (p : S) => { p.x ← 0 } would have to be illegal, for example, though (p : S) => { (p.x, p.y) ← (3, 4) } might be permitted. | | |
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| ▲ | hallole 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| "Given"? I don't know SQL, but going solely off Google Images, that'd read like: SELECT X
GIVEN X > 5 |