"Because Romania is a member state of the European Union, the people the country has put great effort into training and credentialing are easily able to leave the country and acquire jobs elsewhere" and "free movement of talent between countries, Romania ends up subsidizing talent discovery for other countries with less apt educational systems" Are pretty negative stances. UE is a union, so it's a pretty different situation than students leaving eg third world country to come to Europe. And the migration exists in the other direction, you'll be amazed by how many French dentists are studying in Romania. I hope such phenomenon progressively average the situation between UE countries and closes the gaps that may currently exist.

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rciorba 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

> And the migration exists in the other direction, you'll be amazed by how many French dentists are studying in Romania.

Those people don't really plan to stay in Romania. They intend to get their degrees then move back to Western Europe. Hell, most of my former high-school colleagues who became doctors or dentists, emigrated to Western Europe.

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eric-burel 3 days ago | parent [-]

Agreed but what I mean is that 15 years ago you wouldn't have thought about studying medicine in East Europe, or building startups etc. And now people study in Romania, Warsaw is perceived as a great place for entrepreneurs and so on. It's just my personal biased impression but it feels good.

	▲	rciorba 10 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Fair enough, this is a sign of clear progress for Eastern Europe.

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scythe 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I wonder if you can blame the climate and geography as some do in America. Bucharest is hot and sweaty in the summer (avg high 30 C, avg 68% rel H2O) and cold and snowy in the winter. The city lies on a flat plain, far from the mountains or the sea. Then you give people the opportunity to move to Amsterdam or Milan. Plus many other European countries have great infrastructure built up decades ago while Romania was undergoing economic crisis and revolution. It's hard to catch up.

The root of the issue might be that free migration in the age of modern transportation requires a shared tax base.

	▲	eric-burel 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		Yes that's my point, there is a shared budget so at least in some indirect way, the money a Romanian professional makes in another country may end up contributing to Romania's development and growth. I don't have number or what but this has to be taken into account.

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alecco 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The EU echoes the SU, sadly. Central government, central planning, central banks, mix people, no local culture, blur national and ethnic identities, flatten the social structures, and most importantly, destroy the family unit. Young couples can't buy a house and can't afford to raise kids. And young Europeans face high unemployment and low wages for life-consuming jobs with not much career prospects.

Remote work would've lessen that. But it seems they didn't like it so they quickly rolled it back after the pandemic.

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0xffany 4 days ago | parent [-]

This is just plain wrong or a terrible misinterpretation...

> central banks

What are you trying to say here? Each member state has a central bank. They are independent from, coordinated by, the ECB. Each central bank assumes the responsibility of regulating the member state's banks, with the ECB paying close attention to system-critical banks.

The US also has a central bank, singular, the Fed. What's your point?

> no local culture, blur national and ethnic identities

Have you been to Europe? Each country has it's own, completely distinct culture based on the nation's historic identity. Hint: you know when you're crossing borders (the language usually changes).

	▲	alecco 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		Central bank: just see what they did with Greece, Italy, etc. Perennial debt in exchange of control. The central banks of the countries are completely at the mercy of Frankfurt. Yes, the US central bank is quite controversial itself, but the states don't depend on loans from the Fed. Or at least not directly, AFAIK. Of course Europe has culture and my point is they want to neuter it by moving a lot of people across countries, in particular the top of the graduate crop (as the original post pointed out). They blur the identities on purpose. Go to any major city in the bigger countries and you'll see they are losing the national identity very fast. Some are just unrecognizable. https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2025/05/28/christine-lag... Ruling from ECB with WEF directives.