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| ▲ | ribelo 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Let's make this clear: The Anti-Defamation League stated it wasn't a salute and that they weren't offended.
Rabbi Ari Lamm wrote that Musk has repeatedly shown he's a friend to the Jewish community.
David Greenfield suggested people should focus on actual antisemitism instead.
Netanyahu highlighted the absurdity of the accusations and pointed to Musk's aid and engagement after the October 7th attacks. And yes, Musk became a victim. I don't see what his current wealth has to do with it. It's hard to ignore the imbalance where one man drew the world's anger and became public enemy #1. If you call him a snowflake, I don't know what to call all those who might have been offended by his gesture | | |
| ▲ | viraptor 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Whether he's antisemitic or not doesn't change what happened / what it symbolises. We're now in a weird place where Netanyahu supporting him doesn't really make the situation any better. Jews were the convenient outgroup at the time, but don't have to be for Elon. | |
| ▲ | maweaver 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I literally saw it on video. I don't care who tells me it didn't happen, it very clearly did. | | |
| ▲ | cpursley 5 days ago | parent [-] | | You saw what you wanted to see. | | |
| ▲ | KingMob 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Pffft. Nobody wanted to see that, but he did it anyway. | | |
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| ▲ | Capricorn2481 2 days ago | parent [-] | | > Taking a break from Reddit > Yes, seeing someone on the spectrum (who’s got no political gesture training) spaz out on stage is incredibly cringy Saying take a break from Reddit after posting the most Reddit ass comment I've ever seen. |
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| ▲ | gizzlon 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'm not calling him a snowflake because I don't think he is a victim. You do, but since he still has everything, I thought you meant he got his feelings hurt. When I first heard about it I thought "yeah right, media is exaggerigating again". Then I saw it, and I mean wtf! I do not at all believe that's something you do by accident. Twice! Also, he could have excused it or try to explain afterwards. He did not. He just trolled. | |
| ▲ | ryandrake 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If you don't think it was a nazi salute, study the video so you can reproduce the gesture exactly, then go into your work and do it in front of your manager. See what happens. | | |
| ▲ | ribelo 5 days ago | parent [-] | | I reproduced it and nothing happened. The problem might be that I'm my own manager so need to went to the mirror and did it, but if any of my 20 employees did the same, I wouldn't take any action against them. The real reason is that I don't live in the West. Where I live, we don't suffer from the plague of misunderstood political correctness. At least not all of us yet. | | |
| ▲ | Wytwwww 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > but if any of my 20 employees did the same You could all then march around the office or even out on the street with your hands raised. Surely nobody but snowflakes could be offended by that. | |
| ▲ | ryandrake 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Well, ya got me. You managed to find the one rare manager who either 1. cannot recognize a clear nazi salute, or 2. considers it to be acceptable behavior. I guess I'm wrong. |
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| ▲ | saagarjha 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You can always pick and choose Jewish people who are friends to antisemites. | |
| ▲ | Wowfunhappy 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Netanyahu highlighted the absurdity of the accusations and pointed to Musk's aid and engagement after the October 7th attacks. I think Netanyahu had a bit of a conflict of interest here--he couldn't afford to get on Trump's bad side! | |
| ▲ | Wytwwww 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | > he's a friend to the Jewish community So? Does that means nobody else is allowed to have an opinion about the salute that he made. Sure he's pro Israel, that's not uncommon at all amongst the far right these days. > who might have been offended by his gesture What about the people who seem to be highly offended by people who have been offended by his gesture. What do you call them? | | |
| ▲ | ribelo 5 days ago | parent [-] | | Everyone should be free to have whatever opinion they like, or at least, they ought to be. The difference is this, some try to impose their opinions on society, while the rest couldn’t care less and refuse to lose sleep over it. The ability to mind our own business is a virtue, a real one. The world went downhill the moment people started obsessing over others instead of focusing on themselves. And anyone who truly cares about society’s well-being should stop meddling. | | |
| ▲ | Wytwwww 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > The difference is this, some try to impose their opinions on society So literally Musk and his pals? > society’s well-being should stop meddling. So again, Musk et al.? I'm really confused... what are you trying to say. That only some people are allowed to meddle while everyone else should shut up and mind their own business? How do you determine that? Wealth? Political opinions? Class? Race? | |
| ▲ | KingMob 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > The world went downhill the moment people started obsessing over others instead of focusing on themselves. And anyone who truly cares about society’s well-being should stop meddling. The problem is, meddling to interfere with others, and meddling to stop that interference, are not morally equivalent. If a serial killer is trying to strangle me, and I'm fighting back, you wouldn't deplore "the violence on both sides", would you? | |
| ▲ | squigz 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > The world went downhill the moment people started obsessing over others instead of focusing on themselves. Gosh yeah, all that... getting rid of slavery, and women's rights, and disability support and awareness... Truly, the world is far better off! | |
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| ▲ | guywithahat 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | He remains one of the richest people on earth because he obviously didn't perform a Nazi salute. He was extending his heart to the crowd, and the gesture he made is something every major politician has done on camera, because it's a motion one naturally makes when in front of a crowd. Besides, why would the richest man on earth copy a bunch of 1940's socialists who previously socialized their car industry? | | |
| ▲ | KingMob 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Lol. Did you even watch the video? Most politicians just lift their arms up and wave like ordinary people. Musk first placed his hand on his heart, and then extended out forcefully in a clear nazi salute. | |
| ▲ | wozer 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Calling the Nazis socialist is insidious and ahistorical. The Nazis murdered any socialists they could get their hands on. | | |
| ▲ | SV_BubbleTime 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Right. I don’t know why people call nazis socialists just because they supported a state led by government, socialized government program take over like healthcare and education and production, and they have socialist in their name. I can see how it is easy to confuse by let’s be reasonable. The nazis could not have been socialist because that would mean a corruption one time of a system that is based on ideals. | |
| ▲ | guywithahat 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | No they didn’t, they were the prevailing socialist party. They imprisoned party members who didn’t play ball with them but they were the socialist. How could you not know the Nazi’s were socialists? That was their whole thing, socialism would only work in a culturally/ethnically homogeneous society |
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