It's not just the model, it's Elon Musk's view of the world and business in general. Neither Microsoft nor Google nor their leadership--though admittedly imperfect--make it a habit of trolling people, openly embroiling themselves in politics, and committing blatant legal and societal transgressions. You reap what you sow; and if you live for controversy, you can't expect people not to want to do business with you.

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epa 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

What about promoting renewable energy, space exploration, frontier physics and advanced engineering makes you concerned?

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badsectoracula 5 days ago | parent [-]

Donating to orphanages after committing a genocide resets your karma only in videogames.

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FirmwareBurner 5 days ago | parent [-]

What genocide did Musk commit?

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otterley 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

I think they were making a (poor) analogy, not literally accusing Musk of committing genocide.

	▲	badsectoracula 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		Well, i can't think of a better analogy to say that you can't offset doing bad things by doing good things. The karma system some games use (e.g. Fallout 3 where you can nuke an entire city that puts your karma in negatives and then give fresh water to beggars to reset your karma) was what i was reminded of.

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badsectoracula 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Musk didn't commit any genocide (that i'm aware of) but that wasn't what i wrote. The point of my comment is that you can't offset doing -what some people perceive as- bad things by doing -what some people perceive as- good things later.

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AbraKdabra 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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otterley 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Here are a few examples:

* Elon Musk Charged With Securities Fraud for Misleading Tweets: https://www.sec.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2018-219

* SEC Charges Elon Musk for Failing to Timely Disclose Beneficial Ownership of Twitter: https://www.debevoise.com/insights/publications/2025/01/sec-...

* Musk Sued for Calling Thai Cave Rescuer Pedophile: https://www.voanews.com/a/tesla-s-musk-sued-for-calling-thai...

* Elon Musk salute controversy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk_salute_controversy

	▲	AbraKdabra 5 days ago \| parent [-]
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FirmwareBurner 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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otterley 5 days ago | parent [-]

Derangement suggests a complete lack of factual and reasoning capability. Do you honestly think we're unaware of the facts and circumstances that support our judgment?

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elcritch 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, unfortunately. Even liberal commentators like Jon Stewart and Bill Maher have said the obsession with Trump was overblown and even dangerous in its own right.

	▲	bigyabai 4 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Citing Jon Stewart and Bill Maher as "liberal commentators" is like calling Alex Jones and Joe Rogan conservative commentators. Those people will say anything that their audience responds to, what are the actual political scientists on both sides of the aisle saying?
	▲	otterley 5 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		The fact that some people grossly exaggerate a person's evilness (or goodness) doesn't mean that person isn't evil (or good).

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AbraKdabra 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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