▲ | zoeey 5 days ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This past year, I’ve seen a lot of entry-level jobs quietly disappear. It’s not that people are getting laid off, it’s that no one’s hiring beginners anymore. What’s really missing isn’t just the jobs, it’s the chance to grow. If there’s nowhere to start, how are new people supposed to get in and learn? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | antonymoose 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Were there ever that many low-level Junior jobs though? In my experience, almost everyone in college would get an internship Junior / Senior year and convert into an FTE after graduation. Those that were not so talented or not so lucky usually struggled to find work, taking many months to finally land a job. Most typically at a Booz Allen Hamilton type of place that was just throwing bodies into seats. At all of my employers, I’ve never really seen any openings for Juniors, only Mid and Senior positions. The few Juniors we did bring on outside of an internship pipeline were either internal transfers, e.g. a SOC analyst given a chance or a nepotism type of hire. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | spacephysics 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Unfortunately i think many of those jobs can also be attributed to general economic health post low interest rates. Companies now need to leave pre-revenue and turn a profit, or if you’re an established company you need to cut costs/increase margins from other economic headwinds (tariffs, inflation, gov policies etc) A Junior dev (and most devs onboarding) will typically require 6-8 months to start being able to meaningfully contribute, then there’s a general oversight/mentorship for a few years after. Yes they produce, however I think junior’s market salary plus the opportunity cost lost of the higher salaried mid and senior level in mentoring is a hard pill to swallow. The team i work on is stretched very thin, and even after layoffs (which management agreed they went too far with) it’s pulling teeth to get another dev to build things companies are begging for and even willing to separately pay cash upfront for us to build If you’re getting into the current job market as a junior, you’ll likely need to go heavy in the buzzword tech, accept a position from a smaller company that pays substantially less, then in 1-2 years job hop into a higher paying mid level role (not to say 1-2 years makes anyone mid level imo) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | ViewTrick1002 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The question is always: Is this simply the effects of a recession or AI? No one wants to hire juniors, but when the alternative is too expensive they are an acceptable solution. Or if you have some incentive structure where you can get more work out of them like consultancies. With a market flooded with senior people accepting a paycut for a job why even attempt hiring juniors? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | celeryd 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Sadly, they will just have to try harder. It is still doable especially for an American, and I'm not a fan of these doomsayers' prophesying. There is still hope because TikTok and video games are putting most young people in a trance. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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