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999900000999 4 days ago

So much of this industry runs off of good will.

Free software. Free docker images/registries.

Then when a company is like "Hey, um we need to make money", every body gets upset.

We need a more substainable way forward. I can't tell you what that looks like though.

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mdaniel 3 days ago | parent [-]

This is not an accurate characterization of what's generating the outrage

The Path to Outrage is actually:

1. Launch HN with MPL licensing, "we <3 Open Source!11"

2. (a few moments later) Onoz, engineers cost money and that sweet VC juice dries up

3. echo BuSL > LICENSE; git commit -am"License update"; blog about "safeguarding our customers" or whatever

4. shocked pikachu face when users, who starting using the open source product, and maybe even contributed bug fixes or suggestions on how to make the community product better, lose their minds about having the rug pulled out from under them

Contrast this with:

1. Launch HN, asking for money to pay for the product

2. Potential customers will evaluate if the product adds enough value for the money requested

There is no step 3 containing outrage because everyone was on the same page from the beginning

	▲	tetha 3 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> 2. (a few moments later) Onoz, engineers cost money and that sweet VC juice dries up > > 3. echo BuSL > LICENSE; git commit -am"License update"; blog about "safeguarding our customers" or whatever In this case, it's a lot more nefarious. My boss has a list of companies Broadcom has literally sucked dry for money regardless if the company will make it 2 more years. Pretty much everything maintained by VMWare Tanzu and VMWare has to be considered a business risk at this point. And I maintain, I'm not even mad that the free images go away. I'm saying it's unprofessional and rude how they are being removed. Which however isn't surprising with Broadcom per the last point. And sure, the answer is to do it all in-house. But the industry has saved a lot of manpower and made tremendous progress by not doing that and sharing effort for a long time.
	▲	999900000999 2 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Why do you expect for profit organizations to provide tools for free. Eventually the rug needs to be pulled. A non profit foundation is probably closer to what you want