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tzs 9 days ago

50 kb/s x 1000 bits/kb x 3600 s/hr x 24 hr/day x 1 byte/8 bits x 1 MB / 1000000 bytes = 540 MB/day. That's enough to download VPN software and a Linux distribution to run it on in a day.

If you've already got a Linux system, the Debian openvpn package is under 1 MB and at 50 kb/s would take under 3 minutes to download. I don't know if openvpn in particular is suitable for people who are trying to evade their government, but would whatever features it is missing add substantially more size?

mrdomino- 9 days ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah, you could use forward error correction too, so any n bits would be enough to reconstruct the input.

Of course then you get into needing software to decode the more advanced encodings; maybe start with a voice transmission explaining in plain language how to decode the first layer, which gives you a program that can decode the second layer, or something.

Starting to sound like an interesting project.

jdkdbrnrnrb 9 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You never used dialup did you?

anonzzzies 9 days ago | parent | next [-]

300 baud. Was enough to download grainy porn pics. With a proper download tool that continues after hangups etc you can just leave it on for a week and I have when downloading software end 70s. No problem. Also via the airwaves: we had software via the radio every sunday. Works fine. Modern software is shitty large: it would be nice if a VPN provider would just release the driver and a cli which should not weigh over a mega (far less but outside mr Whitney i am not sure if that type of software dev still exists) for this type of transfer.

tzs 8 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

9600 bps dialup using the protocols commonly used back then such as ZMODEM could do file transfers at 3 MB/hour. That would be fine for grabbing VPN software.

kingforaday 9 days ago | parent | prev [-]

zmodem to the rescue!

jchook 8 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wireguard ships with the Linux kernel so you only need to receive ~60 bytes of configuration information.

immibis 8 days ago | parent | next [-]

Wireguard is also easily censored and is already censored in the places that censor VPNs.

teiferer 8 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The user-facing software is not included in the kernel, but you need that to configure wireguard.

jchook 8 days ago | parent [-]

Is that true? I thought wg-quick etc were just convenience functions and that it's relatively trivial to use iproute2 to configure a VPN link

immibis 7 days ago | parent [-]

You don't need wg-quick. You do need the "wg" command.

lormayna 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

HF are really noisy. You need a lot of error correction to ensure that the package is consistent and without any error. This will drastically decrease the real bit rate.

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