Force?

Here is what Gemini says:

>On August 24, 2021, then-Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin issued a memorandum requiring all U.S. armed forces members to get the COVID-19 vaccine. This policy, which was supported by then-President Joe Biden, led to the discharge of thousands of service members who refused the vaccine.

>It's important to note that a dishonorable discharge is a specific type of punishment that can only be issued after a court-martial for serious offenses. While some sources claimed that the Biden administration ordered dishonorable discharges for those who refused the vaccine, this was not the case. The President does not have the authority to issue such an order, and the military services themselves handled disciplinary actions.

>The military's COVID-19 vaccine mandate was rescinded in January 2023 after Congress passed the National Defense Authorization Act, which directed the Department of Defense to end the mandate.

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keb_ 3 days ago | parent [-]

So, we moved from:

* CDC was forcing everyone to get the vaccine

* Biden failed to force everyone to get the vaccine

* The DOD added COVID-19 vaccines to the Joint Regulation on Immunization and Chemoprophylaxis for the Prevention of Infectious (which already included several mandatory vaccines including for influenza) after the FDA had approved the Pfizer vaccine, mandating military personnel to get the vaccine until 2023.

Very interesting that once you unpack an anti-vaxxers alarmist arguments, you're left with a completely different understanding of reality with nuance and all.

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wakawaka28 2 days ago | parent [-]

You have misrepresented my claims. The CDC and Biden tried to force vaccination. The DOD thing is another, similar issue. The DOD mandate DID get enforced though, and many military personnel left over it or were forced to quit. In the end, I believe they sued and won some compensation as well as got rehired.

>Very interesting that once you unpack an anti-vaxxers alarmist arguments, you're left with a completely different understanding of reality with nuance and all.

Very interesting that you cannot comprehend the nuance of someone like me who supports reasonable voluntary use of proven safe and effective vaccines, who opposes forcing proven ineffective and experimental vaccine technology on the entire public without reservation, under threat of exile from society. I'm not taking bullshit from big pharma or government so that must make me an anti-vax simpleton, eh? Gtfo

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keb_ 2 days ago | parent [-]

I represented your claims exactly as you presented them. You've moved your original goalposts so much I may as well be replying to a different user.

> I'm not taking bullshit from big pharma or government so that must make me an anti-vax simpleton, eh? Gtfo

Yes, it is quite clear.

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wakawaka28 2 days ago | parent [-]

You DID reply to a different user, and I replied to your reply to him. FFS...

	▲	keb_ 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		I represented your claims accurately in the first two bullet points in this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45071647 The first bullet was from your now-deleted/flagged comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45048014 The second bullet was from your second comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45056521 And then you moved your goalposts further here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45072189