Have you read these articles by DHH, of Ruby on Rails and Basecamp fame? He's also based in the EU so it might be helpful to read.

sam_lowry_ 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

These articles provide motivation and example, but again, this is just one relatively small company.

Where are thousands of thousands of others following lead?

	▲	gooodvibes 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		They're not. Most companies, teams, people don't care about this.

runjake 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I believe DHH is US-based. He went back to the EU during the Malibu fires, but I believe he's back in California now.

To be more useful, I hear great things about Hetzner amongst my EU engineer friends.

I've been using Hetzner for the last 15 years and even did a migration from a cloud provider to Hetzner once.

It was for financial reasons mostly, although HR considerations like the need to keep good engineers happy played a role.

Still, such projects were sparse and are even more rare now.

What did you think of your Hetzner experience? If it's glowing, what were two things that bugged you?

	▲	sam_lowry_ 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		My take is that Hetzner has more features than AWS in a way that defies the learned helplesness of AWS engineers. For instance a huge feature is the ability to move prettty much all resources between business accounts.