The last time this topic was on HN, some mentioned that many indigenous people had similar techniques with drum beats, e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIfLC5iudQ0 (this is a modern rendition though).

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vishnugupta 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

Somewhat related you may want to check out the works of Manvir Singh [1]. He is an anthropologist who has done extensive work in Shamanism, even authored a book.

A necessary condition to be a shaman is to enter altered sensory state and Shamanism is prevalent among indigenous peoples across the world.

[1] https://www.manvir.org/

	▲	3RTB297 6 days ago \| parent [-]
		Michael Harner's earlier work was in the same vein. He even released a record back in the 70's with drum beats that fit the typical shamanic rates he saw in use.

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AlecSchueler 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Indigenous to where?

	▲	dude250711 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		To the planet.

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Cthulhu_ 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think most modern people can relate, getting into the zone listening to music. But one difference is intent and attention.

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culi 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

See also: sweat baths. Surprisingly wide spread in practice. Not only is it practiced throughout most of North America (Turtle Island) but is also a feature of Kabbalistic (Jewish mysiticist) practices. Mandingo practices might be an African analogue.

(yes, they can lead to psychedelic experiences)

EDIT: here's a paper on Kabbalah and sweat lodges https://www.academia.edu/37069129/The_Kabbalah_of_the_Sweatl...

	▲	aradox66 6 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Seidenberg's work is really interesting but he's definitely not arguing that sweat lodges are a part of historical Jewish practice. He's doing a compare/contrast.
	▲	0_____0 6 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Mandinka