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Teever 5 days ago

That's sort of a fallacious argument though because you could say the same thing about every part of a spacecraft that is used only for the return phase of its mission.

It might be more accurate to say that the ratio of mass for re-entry equipment to the entire craft mass is too great.

But with that said I think that the ultimate failure of the shuttle was that the design wasn't amenable to low cost maintenance. A spacecraft could have a crappy payload to orbit as long as it's cheap to maintain and use with quick turnaround.

I have a feeling that should Starship succeed this will be the case with it and it will end up having a substantially lower payload than intended but will make up for it with a design that's cheap to build and maintain.

WalterBright 5 days ago | parent [-]

It's not fallacious at all. Look at the difference in the hardware bringing the Apollo crews back vs Shuttle crews. Several orders of magnitude.

Teever 5 days ago | parent [-]

And what's the ratio of that to the returned payload mass?