I'll take your ad hominem as an admission you cannot find falsehood in what I'm saying.

Falsehood in... what exactly? This is a horrible tragedy, and you've taken the opportunity to complain about your perceived bias in a news agency instead of engaging with the actual topic.

From one of your other comments in this thread:

> Just look at all the evidence presented in this non-biased, objective article with no financial incentive to incite moral panic…obviously chatgpt is guilty of murder here!

Who cares about the NYT, go read the original legal filings and tell me which part is the moral panic. Is it the bit where the chatbot offered to write him a draft of his suicide note, analyzed the structural stability of his noose and offered advice on a "beautiful suicide", or maybe the part where it told him to make sure to slowly lean forwards to build up the correct pressure to cause death from hanging?

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pembrook 5 days ago | parent [-]

I think you missed the part where the kid ignored the repeated help messaging from chatgpt and twisted it into giving this information by lying about creating a fictional story. Also, these are just the most inflammatory excerpts selected by a lawyer trying to win a case. Without the full transcript, and zero context around this kids life in the real world, to claim ChatGPT is at fault here is just wild.

At what point do you ascribe agency or any responsibility to the actual humans involved here (the 17 year old, his parents, his school, his community, etc.)?

While tragic, blaming [new thing the kids are doing] is fundamentally stupid as it does nothing to address the real reasons this kid is dead now. In fact, it gives everyone an "out" where they don't have to face up to any uncomfortable realities.

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lowsong 5 days ago | parent [-]

We can debate about how legally culpable OpenAI is for their products and if they did enough to ensure safeguards functioned, but if you can’t agree that “a machine that encourages and enables suicide is dangerous and morally wrong” without qualification, then there is nothing to discuss.

There is no wider context that would make a product encouraging this behaviour acceptable. Deflecting blame onto the parents or the victim is extremely offensive, and I sincerely hope you don’t repeat these comments to people who have lost loved ones to suicide.

	▲	Colony8409 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		Blaming the chatbot and patting ourselves on the back when it's all said and done is a great way to guarantee that this same tragedy happens again, and again, and... It's a huge disservice to this child and the millions of other suffering children.