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dragonwriter 6 days ago

> They deliberately are designed to mimic human thought and social connection.

No, they are deliberately designed to mimic human communication via language, not human thought. (And one of the big sources of data for that was mass scraping social media.)

> But this, to me, feels like a sign we probably don't have the right guardrails. Quantity and quality are different things.

Right. Focus on quantity implies that the details of "guardrails" don't matter, and that any guardrail is functionally interchangeable with any other guardrail, so as long as you have the right number of them, you have the desired function.

In fact, correct function is having the exactly the right combination of guardrails. Swapping a guardrail which would be correct with a different one isn't "having the right number of guardrails", or even merely closer to correct than either missing the correct one or having the different one, but in fact, farther from ideal state than either error alone.

AnIrishDuck 6 days ago | parent [-]

> No, they are deliberately designed to mimic human communication via language, not human thought.

My opinion is that language is communicated thought. Thus, to mimic language, at least really well, you have to mimic thought. At some level.

I want to be clear here, as I do see a distinction: I don't think we can say these things are "thinking", despite marketing pushes to the contrary. But I do think that they are powerful enough to "fake it" at a rudimentary level. And I think that the way we train them forces them to develop this thought-mimicry ability.

If you look hard enough, the illusion of course vanishes. Because it is (relatively poor) mimcry, not the real thing. I'd bet we are still a research breakthrough or two away from being able to simulate "human thought" well.