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idle_zealot 6 days ago

Then it's like cigarettes or firearms. As a distributor you're responsible for making clear the limitations, safety issues, etc, but assuming you're doing the distribution in a way that isn't overly negligent then the user becomes responsible.

If we were facing a reality in which these chat bots were being sold for $10 in the App Store, then running on end-user devices and no longer under the control of the distributors, but we still had an issue with loads of them prompting users into suicide, violence, or misleading them into preparing noxious mixtures of cleaning supplies, then we could have a discussion about exactly what extreme packaging requirements ought to be in place for distribution to be considered responsible. As is, distributed on-device models are the purview of researchers and hobbyists and don't seem to be doing any harm at all.

Pedro_Ribeiro 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

Mhm but I don't believe inherently violent and dangerous things like guns and cigarretes are comparable to simple technology.

Should the creators of Tornado Cash be in prison for what they have enabled? You can jail them but the world can't go back, just like it can't go back when a new OSS model is released.

It is also much easier to crack down on illegal gun distribution than to figure out who uploaded the new model torrent or who deployed the latest zk innovation on Ethereum.

I don't think your hypothetical law will have the effects you think it will.

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I also referenced this in another reply but I believe the government controlling what can go on a publicly distributed AI model is a dangerous path and probably inconstitucional.

rsynnott 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> but we still had an issue with loads of them prompting users into suicide, violence, or misleading them into preparing noxious mixtures of cleaning supplies, then we could have a discussion about exactly what extreme packaging requirements ought to be in place for distribution to be considered responsible.

Or, I mean, just banning sale on the basis that they're unsafe devices and unfit for purpose. Like, you can't sell, say, a gas boiler that is known to, due to a design flaw, leak CO into the room; sticking a "this will probably kill you" warning on it is not going to be sufficient.

idle_zealot 6 days ago | parent [-]

In that extreme case the "packaging requirements" would be labeling the thing not as a boiler, but as dangerous explosive scrap.

rsynnott 6 days ago | parent [-]

I suspect in many places you couldn’t sell what would essentially be a device for poisoning people to consumers _at all_.