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saubeidl 2 days ago

What you are perceiving as slowness can also be perceived as institutional stability - the very thing the US is lacking and that is leading to all of this in the first place.

wqaatwt 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Unfortunately Europe has to pick between actually taking decisive actions and doing something or another 20 years of stagnation (i.e. institutional stability).

You can’t have both..

saubeidl 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Indeed. That's why it's making moves to aggressively rearm right now - so it can move as its own entity on the geopolitical stage.

Once that's complete and the dependence on the US is broken, expect more dramatic moves.

mantas 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

And those decisive actions will probably end up being bottle cap style.

mantas 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

EU will probably tax some theoretical outside lights sustainability tax which will be way higher than what US does with metals. At best, EU would be sustainable center of sustainability trade.

I can’t wait to see what will happen when German auto industry crashes. It will be a very very interesting domino fall. Unfortunately I’ll watch it from inside, so it won’t be fun, but it will be interesting nonetheless.

wqaatwt a day ago | parent [-]

It probably won’t crash i.e. they will retain enough market share domestically if the EU enacts sufficient protectionist policies.

Export markets will of course collapse outside of the very high-end. But that has been slowly occurring over the last few years anyway.

mantas a day ago | parent [-]

It was very strange when Germany was one of the countries blocking protectionist policies for car industry. If they keep going for short profit avoiding retaliatory policies, it may get awry.

I think there will be even stronger trend of european brands put on Chinese made cars. Like Renault is already doing with Dacia Spring. Brands themselves will survive, even companies themselves may survive, but many of them may be just headquarters. Moving production means supply chain follows. And that's where most of the jobs are. Over time R&D will follow factories. So for the job market it could be pretty close to full-on crash.

wqaatwt 11 hours ago | parent [-]

> was very strange when Germany was one of the countries blocking protectionist policies

Because they believed the actually had a chance of remaining competitive in the Chinese market.

Turns out that was highly delusional in hindsight.

mantas 10 hours ago | parent [-]

That was a year ago when the writing was already on the wall. I guess they accepted defeat and just want to cash out in Chinese market as much as possible before the inevitable hits.