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dmitrygr 2 days ago

I see a lot of money in the future for competent engineers who can unfuck what ChatGPT has fucked.

Frieren 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> I see a lot of money in the future for competent engineers who can unfuck what ChatGPT has fucked.

I do not want to do that work. Cleaning up junior code is easy, because they mess in predictable ways.

LLM generated code can be extremely complex at the same time that nonsensical. It has a line of genius and then code that does nothing. It can use many different libraries mixed in inhuman ways.

Better to let that companies shut down and do something better elsewhere.

skydhash 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

People have patterns for messing things up. That’s the reason they’re called anti patterns. They learned the wrong thing and then apply it consistently. And you’ll still have human limitations to help you. They’ll want the thing to be working at least superficially, so a lot of the glue code will be correct. And the anount of code will have an upper limit.

No such thing with AI.

hoppp a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Yup. When digging into vibe coded apps I get brainfuck. Its not organized for a human brain to process and full of weird things

dmitrygr 8 hours ago | parent [-]

It helps that my background is reverse engineering, so i am used to code that makes no sense or has been purposefully obfuscated.

jackdawed 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have been exclusively doing this in the past year, selling my services as “hardening vibe-coded prototypes for production” or “helping early stage startups scale”.

In the best cases, they were able to reach funding or paying users. Architecture debt is one of the worst kinds of tech debt, so if you set it up right, it’s really hard to mess up.

In the worst case, after my contract ended, the CEO fired the whole US engineering team and replaced them with offshore resources. This was an example of messing up despite the architectural and procedural safeguards we built.

tzury 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

after the fall (literal + season) there will be no more money.

billions were poured over AI companies (and yes, nowadays, if you are writing a stateful loop on top of LLM API you are considered as an AI company).

it will take sometime for new money to arrive into the cycle.

this CTO was simply naively trying to fulfill the Sam Altman (and the likes) promise "the future of AI", "90% of our code is written by AI" and so on.

this is the is on the borderline of scam, sure enough misleading the public.

dirtbag__dad 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Amen to this. Everyone is worried about losing their job. I’m pretty sure at the same time it’s cementing them.

murshudoff 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That future is not that far. Without a truly Senior Engineer whatever AI writes is a slop in most cases.

msgodel 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

They key part, as usual, will be figuring out how to sell the service to people who thought ChatGPT would have been enough.