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troad 17 hours ago

> The debate about MAID is another example where a lot of otherwise rational people fall prey to misguided sloganeering.

This is the same level of argument as saying that people who vote for the other guys must have been tricked by FOX News / MSNBC / Russia / Tik Tok / transtrenders / tradwives, and if only they truly understood their actual self-interest they would agree with you on all things. It's a bad style of argumentation, albeit very popular in academia ('why do the poor keep voting wrong?').

There are legitimate reasons to oppose Canada's euthanasia program on its own terms, and it's not surprising the Canadian government has very carefully shielded MAID from any sort of public input or oversight, since it's deeply unlikely it would pass a majority vote in its current form. There is consistent public opposition to euthanasia being available to anyone but late-stage terminally-ill people (and even then, it's divisive at best). There is strong public opposition to euthanasia solely on the grounds of mental health.

More broadly, I think people are increasingly sick of the misuse of the term 'healthcare' (or 'public health') to sneak unpopular or controversial policies past the electorate, and the idea of 'death as healthcare' is probably the most extreme example of this trend. When people cannot express democratic opposition to policies they deeply oppose, don't be surprised if you get pushback and populism.

greygoo222 15 hours ago | parent [-]

73% of Canadians support MAID https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38910003/ 71% of Americans believe doctors should be "allowed by law to end the patient’s life by some painless means if the patient and his or her family request it" https://news.gallup.com/poll/648215/americans-favor-legal-eu...

These policies are supported by a strong majority of people.

troad 14 hours ago | parent [-]

Literally the abstract of that very study:

> Only 12.1% correctly answered ≥4 of 5 knowledge questions about the MAID law; only 19.2% knew terminal illness is not required and 20.2% knew treatment refusal is compatible with eligibility. 73.3% of participants expressed support for the MAID law in general, matching a nationally representative poll that used the same question. 40.4% of respondents supported MAID for mental illnesses. Support for MAID in the scenarios depicting refusal or lack of access to treatment ranged from 23.2% (lack of access in medical condition) to 32.0% (treatment refusal in medical illness)

Most Canadians express support for MAID but cannot correctly answer questions about it. When Canadians are actually told what's in MAID, they oppose it.

It's also worth noting that quite a lot of polling on this question is done by, or on behalf of, pro-euthanasia organisations; there is often a huge mismatch between the questions asked and the actual legislation proposed and passed (in a very motte-and-bailey kind of way).

greygoo222 11 hours ago | parent [-]

People stated they supported the policy after reading a full description of the policy. If you don't trust the paper (whose researchers are anti-euthanasia), the Canadian government found the same results. https://researchco.ca/2023/05/05/maid-canada-2023/

Nobody ever correctly answers questions about legislation, to put it glibly. Any piece of legislation newer than 10 years and more complex than a sentence is not going to pass such a test with the general public. 19.2% knew that terminal illness is not required? I would be shocked if 19.2% could correctly answer a few basic questions about the definition of "terminal illness."