> especially after Alan Dye made such a mess with "Liquid Glass".

Your comment makes it seem like Gruber is a big critic of Liquid Glass like many commenters on HN are, but that's not the case. He's certainly critical of some of the execution details like icons or translucency that can hinder reading, but his stance on it is pretty nuanced leaning toward cautiously optimistic.

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/06/09/apple-intro-liq...

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jdelman 7 days ago | parent [-]

Listen to the episode of The Talk Show with Louie Mantia. They really rip on Alan Dye and Liquid Glass. Not so much the _idea_ of Liquid Glass, which I think they appreciate, but its execution, which is shoddy, inconsistent, and reveals a dearth of holistic thinking about UI design.

	▲	TheOtherHobbes 6 days ago \| parent [-]
		This is revealingly cringe and shows an almost complete absence of self awareness. https://www.printmag.com/podcasts/2025/design-matters-craig-... I suppose life is very different inside the citadel. You get curated and triaged feedback from users, Tim Cook doesn't really have opinions about usability and design choices, so there's no one in charge of the classroom. The reality is in spite of nice touches like call filtering, software quality and usability are both clearly going down. And Apple's moat, which is a combination of ecosystem lock-in and graphic design, is threatened from one side by AI and from the other by whatever Liquid Glass is supposed to be.