There is one positive to all of this. Finally, we can stop listening to people who keep saying that Apple Silicon is ahead of everyone else because they have access to better process. There are now chips on better processes than M1 that still deliver much worse performance per watt.

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dapperdrake 7 days ago | parent | next [-]

Go down the rabbit hole of broken compiler settings for debian default builds, if you want to see how much low-hanging fruit we still have.

Who here would be interested in testing a distro like debian with builds optimized for the Framework devices?

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pabs3 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

Got a link about the Debian issue? Is it just that they build for the CPU baseline to maximise hardware support?

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wiml 7 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Should .. should I install gentoo?

	▲	codr7 7 days ago \| parent [-]
		The answer is always yes, continously.

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Panzer04 7 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Because of a random anecdote on hackwrnews?

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bigyabai 7 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Not sure why you'd think that, comparing a heterogeneous core architecture to a homogeneous one. Mobile Ryzen chips aren't designed for power efficiency, if you want a "fair" comparison then pull up a Big.little x86 chip or benchmark Apple's performance cores vs AMD's mobile chipsets.

Once you normalize for either efficiency cores or performance cores, you'll quickly realize that the node lead is the largest advantage Apple had. Those guys were right, the writing was on the wall in 2019.

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dmitrygr 7 days ago | parent [-]

I guess that’s the new excuse. Except it doesn’t work. I can off-line all the efficiency cores on my M1 laptop and still run circles around the new x86 stuff in performance per watt.

	▲	bigyabai 7 days ago \| parent [-]
		Well don't just tell me about it, show me. Link the Geekbench results when its done running.