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glimshe 2 days ago

If Mark Zuckerberg didn't exist, we'd still have Facebook. Someone else would have done it.

But if Neal Stephenson didn't exist, we'd not necessarily have what he created. That's how unique his ideas are.

And Meta, billions of dollars later, is still no Metaverse...

tialaramex 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Eh, I like some of Neal's books a lot, particularly Diamond Age is likely in any top ten I'd come up with. But this claim is basically only true in the trivial sense that wouldn't have any arbitrary creative work if its author hadn't created it.

So in that sense it's the exact same as Facebook. Without Neal somebody else would invented "post Cyberpunk" and without Mark somebody else would have invented whatever Facebook is - social media for your grandparents maybe?

Neal is "unique" but we're all unique, it's the least unique thing about us. He struggles to write satisfying endings, he leans too heavily on the rape-as-character-development trope, his novels have become flabby as his fame grew and presumably he was able to resist editorial demands more, he doesn't know as much about technology as he thinks he does... Like I said, "Diamond Age" would probably make my top ten, but that's not because it's flawless by any means.

bko a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> If Mark Zuckerberg didn't exist, we'd still have Facebook.

Yes, because multi-trillion dollar companies are completely natural and spawn almost at random to whatever nerd happens to be working on a particular problem at any given time

nxrabl a day ago | parent | next [-]

Note that GP didn’t say Meta, the trillion-dollar company, they said Facebook, the social platform that won its generation of social platforms. One of those platforms was bound to win, just by the interconnected nature of social networks, and I think reasonable people can disagree on whether that success sets you up inevitably to make a trillion dollars or not.

user____name 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Web 2.0 -> inevitable social interaction platforms -> inevitable network effects -> inevitable advertising magnet.

Who knows, it could've been MySpace Tom?

xkcd1963 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

facebook is just a glorified blogpost website