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yibg 3 days ago

A few things are different.

1. Degrees / magnitude. How many cases of dictatorial behavior were there with Obama vs Trump? Every president signs executive orders, but trump signs a lot more of them.

2. Defiance to checks in power. The current administration seems uniquely defiant of both the legislative and the judicial branches, both in rhetoric and act.

engineeringwoke 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

And in turn federal district judges have signed a lot more nationwide injunctions? Orders of magnitude more than had ever been issued?

And now they are using a protected class loophole to keep doing it? After it was struck down by the Supreme Court?

No, but it's different when my opponent does it.

shazbotter 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

You have to stop thinking it's us or them. You have to stop imagining that somehow any of this is ok because my team or your team did or didn't do something.

I certainly hope I've been clear that this isn't some D vs R conflict. Both parties are at fault, both parties own some blame, but the situation today is not ok. It was also not ok under Biden, Trump 1, or Obama. We should be looking at ways to get the working class to look past our differences and securing more of the pie for ourselves. We should be reducing the power of the executive, no matter who is sitting in the seat. We should be focusing on the wellbeing of all.

Stop making a team sport, or at least correctly identify that you have way more in common with me (a working class anarchist) than you do with the people in power.

engineeringwoke 3 days ago | parent [-]

Politics is a team sport..? I have nothing in common with tankies, sorry.

shazbotter 3 days ago | parent [-]

I'm not a tankie, and if you think all leftists are tankies you definitely need to refresh some definitions.

Unless you are saying, "I have nothing in common with the narrow subset of leftists that are tankies" rather than implying I'm a tankie then, sure. I guess you could make that case.

yibg 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> And in turn federal district judges have signed a lot more nationwide injunctions? Orders of magnitude more than had ever been issued?

that by itself doesn't mean much. More EOs and especially illegal ones produces more injunctions.

> No, but it's different when my opponent does it.

No it's not different but the amount that's done matters. I for one have no issues calling out overreach by "my" side as well (which is more than can be said about most MAGAs). But I'm also going to call it out when the "other" side is doing it as normal course of governing vs being the exception.

How many legislations has this administration proposed let alone passed? vs how many EOs signed just since Jan?

ToDougie a day ago | parent | prev [-]

The Obama administration wielded the power of the executive branch against its political opponents. And then the media ran cover for them -- "the Obama administration had no scandals!"

Using the IRS to target your political opponents should have been disqualifying. Running guns to the cartels should have been impeachable.