| ▲ | helloooooooo 2 days ago |
| I don’t think anyone here has yet come to the realization that ending rampant consumerism is the whole damn point of the tariffs. |
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| ▲ | shafyy 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| No, that's surely not the point of tariffs. Maybe a silver lining, but for sure not the intention. |
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| ▲ | bagels 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| According to who? That's not the most common justification provided for them, the more common refrain a bag full of lies about what a tariff is and what a trade deficit is. |
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| ▲ | khuey 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The "point" of the tariffs is that Trump likes tariffs. There's nothing more to it than that. |
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| ▲ | lolc 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Why cut off your thinking there? I can think of many reasons why he would like tariffs. Two off the bat: - Allows claiming various benefits like onshoring production, or reduced taxes. This is for the voters. - Allows threatening other countries' industries with tariffs unless they invest in his friends' enterprises. This is for him. |
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| ▲ | LastTrain 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Yeah gilding the Oval Office really drives the message home. “Trump calmly reminds nation that desire is the truth of all suffering” - Onion |
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| ▲ | dudefeliciano 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This is a ridiculous attempt at sanewashing. When has Trump or anyone in the GOP EVER stated that they want to end consumerism? |
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| ▲ | add-sub-mul-div 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| My brain just leaked out of my ear. |
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| ▲ | eagsalazar2 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Lol, are you serious? Can you elaborate on your thinking here? Are you suggesting Trump imposed tariffs out of some altruistic goal of reducing waste or the social impacts of consumerism?? That can't be right. What is the motivation in your mind? |
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| ▲ | ActorNightly 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
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| ▲ | hdgvhicv 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | You can support some of trumps policies while thinking the insurrectionist peadophile should be behind bars You can also support tarrifs in principal but not support the way they have been implemented (club not calpol, used as a political weapon or to extract mafia style favours) | | |
| ▲ | Latty 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | The post being replied to says "the tarrifs", clearly referring to the current set of tarrifs implemented by this admin, not the concept of tarrifs in general, otherwise they'd have just said "tarrifs". | | |
| ▲ | hdgvhicv 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Sure. You can support these exact tarrifs and not support trump in general If you have to be against everything Trump does to be against Trump that’s a problem, and you’d be a hypocrite (like Trump) | | |
| ▲ | stouset 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | That's not even what's being argued here. What's being pointed out is the retcon that "the whole damn point of the tariffs" is to end rampant consumerism. It's clear that the grand^{n}parent poster is flailing about and desperately trying to find the comfort of some coherent and intentional narrative behind a set of inherently incoherent and unintentional actions. | |
| ▲ | ActorNightly a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yall missing the point. If your manager at work acted like a legit insane person, but said one true thing, you wouldn't be there saying that he/she is smart in that particular area. If by some chance in hell tarrifs actually work, its due to pure luck, not due to any strategy. Which is what the original person I am replying to made it seem. | | |
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| ▲ | ActorNightly 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yes, but that is not what is happening here. |
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| ▲ | stouset 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's absolutely insane. I know we don't want HN to devolve into political bickering, but this is a deeply important meta-observation about what's happening in our country right now. Trump's stochastically random decisions are so inscrutable, but his following is so cult-like, that his followers are forced to flail around to try and find any plausible justification for these actions. You'd think that at some point the sheer effort of this would trigger some sort of introspection, but it never seems to come. Someone, somewhere, latches onto an explanation that's catchy enough, vague enough, and impossible to disprove enough, that the tribe can take the explanation at face value and latch onto it, no matter how thin. This will be studied for a long, long time. | | |
| ▲ | ActorNightly 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I hate that this is somehow is still viewed as political, when the topic has moved far past that to the point where you are arguing with conservatives that can't comprehend actual reality. Like this is philosophical more than political. |
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