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Jensson 3 days ago

Communism gives politicians 100% control over the country instead of roughly half like they have in capitalist democracies, So people wont vote for communism because its autocratic.

You never want all power to be in the hands of a single group of people, capitalist democracies separates private from public, so politicians regulating companies are not the same people who are owning those companies. Communism can never work since its an autocratic system with a single player, you need multiple actors.

And yes, in some capitalist democracies company leaders are close bedfellows with politicians, we call that corruption, it isn't like that in all countries.

9rx 3 days ago | parent [-]

> Communism gives politicians 100% control over the country

Impossible. Communism has no concept of state (nor money, nor class). That's, like, its defining feature.

Of course, you can't just wish for class, state, and money to go away. They are necessary features of our current world. Communism is the imagined outcome of what happens after we achieve post-scarcity. It is a work of science fiction. Star Trek is a more modern adaptation on the same idea.

> Communism can never work since its an autocratic system

If it were more than science fiction, it is literally the opposite, but, again, depends on post-scarcity. You are likely confusing communism with the Communist Party, who believe in an autocratic system being necessary to pave the way to achieving post-scarcity, with, on paper, a desire to get there.

JoeAltmaier 3 days ago | parent [-]

Maybe a little pedantic. Socialism then, or any existing embodiment of the first stages of Communism. Imposed by force on a population accustomed to another way. Usually accompanied by state confiscation of large businesses, the accompanied corruption, waste and ultimate food riots that often occur. Then a military takeover that's decried as crushing the utopian communist ideal! But actually, just getting everybody fed again.

9rx 3 days ago | parent [-]

> Socialism then

While the Communist Party does believe in socialism, that does not sum it up either. That would be like trying to tie the Republican Party up in a capitalism bow. They do believe in capitalism, but so does the Democratic Party. Yet they are clearly different parties with some very different ideas.

> or any existing embodiment of the first stages of Communism.

The USA is the country most in the first stages of communism. Its technical innovation has nearly pushed food into post-scarcity territory (some argue it is already there), and it is working hard, harder than any other country, to do the same in other areas of production.

While some of your points resonate with what Trump is doing, for the most part he is an aberration and there isn't yet much indication that he — or anyone in the future — will get away with it.