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antonkochubey 2 days ago

I know this is an anecdote, but I have quite a few 18650's from early 2010's still in service, of course with significant increase to internal resistance and drop to capacity, but fully functional otherwise.

datadrivenangel 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I also have many functional 18650s of that age. lithium ion cells often self discharge at a few % per month, so after a few years of no power use a cell is likely to be dead without recharging anyways. The betavoltaics will still have usable power output. The real question is what the cost/performance comparison looks like between a betavoltaic system and a 18650 + tiny solar panel system that can on average recharge the battery on an annual basis.

buckle8017 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

He's talking decades without recharging.

jolmg 2 days ago | parent [-]

I think he's replying to the bit:

> an 18650 would probably have lost all it's chemical abilities.

m463 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Wonder how early EVs with 18650s like the tesla roadster (2008) or model s (2013) are faring?