A political establishment that builds a "total surveillance police state" is not going to allow itself to be displaced by "elections".

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michaelt 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

> A political establishment that builds a "total surveillance police state" is not going to allow itself to be displaced by "elections".

Kier Starmer may be a wildly unpopular leader, even within his own party, and may have declared inconvenient protest groups to be terrorists so they can be banned, and may support a porn ban and an encryption ban, and an expansion of police facial recognition, and may back jailing people for misinformation posted on twitter that lead to riots, and may happily play lapdog to the wildly unpopular Trump government for little benefit.

But he will not call off the next elections, or refuse to step down. He is nowhere near popular enough to succeed at that, even if he tried. He can't even get his own party to pass his government's flagship spending reductions.

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FridayoLeary 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

It's the direction the state is taking, not the political establishment. Elections are fine because they won't change anything in the way the state is run. If you want proof look at Israel. The moment the right wing, which has been continuously elected into power for the last 20 years or so, and have a clear and undeniable mandate tried to bring the institutions more in line with the people they suddenly found themselves innundated with protests and outright rebellion. Democracy has its limits apparently. I hate to see the UK sliding in that direction.

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monkey_monkey 4 days ago | parent [-]

The revisionsism and one-eyed delusional rewriting of history is, almost, amusing.

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FridayoLeary 4 days ago | parent [-]

Yes of course. Netanyahu in a narcissistic and tyrannical move tried to seize control of the judicial system as part of his ongoing attempts to subvert democracy and justice. He's corrupt and if he's found guilty he'll go to prison so he's trying to control the process. But the brave protestors are speaking out and not allowing him and his far right government from destroying Israeli democracy and society. It's an old, tired narrative and most of the country can see through it which is why he keeps getting elected.

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andrepd 4 days ago | parent [-]

>Netanyahu in a narcissistic and tyrannical move tried to seize control of the judicial system as part of his ongoing attempts to subvert democracy and justice. He's corrupt and if he's found guilty he'll go to prison so he's trying to control the process. But the brave protestors are speaking out and not allowing him and his far right government from destroying Israeli democracy and society.

Well yes this, but unironically.

Of course, add commission of genocide to that list.

	▲	FridayoLeary 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		It's genocide to defend your country these days. It's amazing how good pr and a concerted media campaign can shift a narrative so far that it's taken for granted, even by pro Israel people that they have to defend against charges of genocide. It's the sort of thing put out by people who want zero accountability and are looking to deflect blame (the UN, Qatar and every other Arab state who helped create this crisis). Yeah I know you're going to say that's netanyahu, but it's obviously not because he would deal in good faith with anyone who would reciprocate. On the very rare occasions that happens he does. He's so far honoured the ceasfires and politically he's offered many concessions to which are usually rejected, because most of the time people are dealing with him and his government in bad faith.