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ozgrakkurt 15 hours ago

It is baseless to think QAnon wouldn’t exist if there wasn’t internet.

There were fascist movements and crazy people directing entire countries since history exists.

Having more ideas isn’t bad. Some people thinking covid is a conspiracy is a very good thing. Everyone just thinking same things will never happen hopefully.

krapp 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I never claimed that QAnon was the only fascist movement that rose to power, or that the internet was the only way that any fascist movement could rise to power. But QAnon as a phenomenon would never have existed nor would it have metastasized in the body politic as it did without the internet. It is probably the first truly internet age political movement, at least the first I'm aware of.

And those pre-internet fascist movements were the result of years, if not decades, of creeping effort and required the power and infrastructure of governments and control of the media to take hold.In a world without the internet Trump never makes it past the primaries. But Trump went from a joke of a candidate to Christ incarnate for half the country in a matter of months, almost entirely due to memes. Again - the salient point is the way that the internet allows these movements to galvanize and accelerate and control people's reality in a way that wasn't wasn't possible before.

>Having more ideas isn’t bad. Some people thinking covid is a conspiracy is a very good thing.

Believing in anti-vaccine conspiracy theories kills people, full stop, and the people who believed in covid conspiracy theories literally made things worse for the rest of the human species. Ideas don't exist in a vaccuum. It's unfortunate you think this is a good thing, or you can't see a relationship between the ideas and their consequences. Or that you don't care.

computerthings 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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