Lobbying only does something if government is corrupt.

This is either a tautology or meaningless, depending on semantics.

Q: Are there today, or have there ever been in history, any non-corrupt governments (that by your implication are invulnerable to lobbying)?

I’m pretty sure lobbying is a thing everywhere, regardless of corruption. People want the government to do stuff and will try to make it happen, from autocracies to direct democracies and everything in between.

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philipallstar 3 days ago | parent [-]

Of course. Writing to your representative is you wanting the government to do something. There's nothing wrong with that. It's only when government is corrupt that it's a problem.

	▲	cobbzilla 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		So you’re saying “lobbying can do something, even when the government is not corrupt”? If so, then yes, that’s the point I was making, which refutes the statement that lobbying only does something if the government is corrupt. If not, then I’m confused, please help me understand what I’m missing.