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When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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imoverclocked 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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rockemsockem 4 days ago | parent [-]

You're borderline saying "the present US administration, elected democratically, is equivalent to the Nazis".

That's insane. We used to have a rule on the Internet for people like you.

I'm no Trump fan, and people making alarmist statements like yours only help people like him get elected.

So, you know, stop. Especially if you think they're Nazis.

SpaceX exists because the US wants access to space and they are the cheapest way to space in history. They can continue to exist because starlink and their commercial launch services are massively profitable.

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imoverclocked 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Still calling me insane and saying, “people like you.” Hmm.

You didn’t call out anything substantive in my previous comment so I’ll assume those points are not disputed.

As to the profitability of Starlink:

> Starlink is projected to generate between $11.8 billion and $12.3 billion in revenue in 2025, according to analyses from Quilty Space. This projected growth is driven by increasing subscriber demand and significant government contracts, particularly with the U.S. military.

You’ll likely find similar when looking up SpaceX profitability in 2025.

So, again, these things only exist because of the US government.

Do we agree on this yet or do we need to delve further somehow?

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rockemsockem 3 days ago | parent [-]

I feel like you're trying to misunderstand.

Let's review the easy to parse things that have been said

> I suppose you could say the same thing of Germany in the 1930s. The parallels aren’t even that hard to find as there are literal rockets being built in both cases.

You're obviously comparing both Elon and the current admin to Nazis. Which is insane, i.e. a view of things incompatible with reality, if you actually believe that.

> We used to have a rule for people like you on the Internet.

It's obviously Godwin's law. You aren't part of some oppressed class that I'm singling out, idiots have tons of power these days (look at the Whitehouse).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

> You’ll likely find similar when looking up SpaceX profitability in 2025.

> So, again, these things only exist because of the US government.

> Do we agree on this yet or do we need to delve further somehow?

If you read carefully you'll see that I said that SpaceX would not have existed from its conception if not for the US government. But I asserted that it is no longer necessary and that is absolutely true. You pointing out that a basket of money includes dollars from the government (i.e. starlink revenue) doesn't even come close to disproving that. Google gets paid from government contracts too and their existence is not contingent on those contracts.

This conversation is over. I hope you will investigate facts and appreciate nuance more in the future.

	▲	imoverclocked 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		> I feel like you're trying to misunderstand That's easy to feel when you are passionate about an opposing viewpoint. What's hard is to see clearly enough to change your own viewpoint based on facts. > You're obviously comparing both Elon and the current admin to Nazis He did sieg heil twice on stage. He funds far-right parties internationally. His family heritage is literal nazis. > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law Directly from the article: Godwin's law can be applied mistakenly or abused as a distraction, a diversion, or even censorship, when miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole even when the comparison made by the argument is appropriate. > This conversation is over. Agreed.

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oezi 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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