> if you actually want to have valuable political conversations with people, don't start by identifying yourself with ideology that's arguably responsible for various atrocities and millions of deaths.

So neither capitalism nor communism? What's left, anarchism? I guess they haven't killed that many people.

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kelnos 4 days ago | parent [-]

The point is to stop making economic systems a part of your identity.

Talk about policies and their effects, not about what bucket you might put them (and yourself) in.

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testrun 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

The reason we use labels (bucket) is to make the conversation easier. Imagine that every time you use a word that you first have to define what it means. My point is that the word 'socialism' has now become meaningless.

	▲	johnecheck 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Indeed, labels aren't useless. But when a label means one thing to one person and a totally different thing to another, it actually becomes an impediment to communication and is best avoided.

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imtringued 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Communists are anti-reformist. They don't believe that anything short of a violent revolution will change anything.

Oh and if you like reforms, then you are anti-revolutionary, which means you are reactionary, which means you are a fascist. Yep, that's the standard communist logic.