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| ▲ | p2detar 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | This is beyond vague. What do you even mean by morality? And how is it better for non-western entity to allegedly control the narrative, except also using it for its own benefit, which would be immoral by definition? | |
| ▲ | idiotsecant 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | 'The West also does bad stuff' is not the same thing as 'China and the west are the same' or 'Russia and the west are the same'. That's a false equivalency. The west has a long tradition of respecting individual rights. You aren't going to get disappeared like you absolutely will in those places. Say what you will about the failings of the west, but there's a clear moral high ground there, even if that height is an inch tall. | | |
| ▲ | yibg 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | The main difference I see is part of the government of "the west", e.g. US, hasn't been able to get all the way to how China operates yet, not that they don't want to. Given the chance, which looks like they're getting, China (the government) is what they want to be. | |
| ▲ | xbmcuser 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Don't make up stuff learn your own history individual rights in the west have been by race, color, education, wealth or sexual orientation and easily forgotten when the individuals are not white. | | |
| ▲ | kortilla 4 days ago | parent [-] | | “But what about America’s racism” in a thread about censorship is a pretty bog standard disinformation tactic. It’s not the topic and whataboutism isn’t a defense even when it’s related to the topic. | | |
| ▲ | xbmcuser 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Ah no on a topic of censorship someone was saying how good western countries were before about personal freedoms and I called out that lie as many of those freedom are just for TV shows and literature only. All citizens did not and still do not enjoy all the freedoms he is spouting the only difference the restrictions are being more broadly applied so he is effected so talks about the past was better. The past was better only for white skinned straight man maybe you could add rich as when when it come to personal freedoms | | |
| ▲ | p2detar 4 days ago | parent [-] | | You are heavily mixing freedom with access to opportunity. They are not the same. I come from an Eastern European country. Before 1990, if I would have wanted to not study and only drink and let my live go like Diogenes, that would have never worked. The authorities would pick me up from the street and forcefully make me go work something, even if I don't like it. Even if I have studied, the authorities still may decide where I can go to work. The possibility to decide how I can build or fuck up my own live - this is what I understand as freedom. Opportunity - this is something very different. And to that I can agree with you about the "white skinned man", even if it is very far away from my understanding about the world because of where I was born and how I lived. |
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| ▲ | idiotsecant 4 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Apply your same standard to ethnic minorities in Russia or China and tell me how tall that moral high ground is. It's easy to sit in a hole 20 feet deep and criticize the west for only being an inch above ground. | |
| ▲ | Yeul 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | White man goes nuts when yellow man challenges their power. |
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