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borroka 2 days ago

It's like asking for less than you need or could get when negotiating pay for a job or position.

One would think that the employer would recognize or remember this kind of “sacrifice.” Or that, somehow, asking for less money will lead to a more sympathetic judgment of what was accomplished. But my experience and that of many others I have observed tells me that this rarely happens.

Those who pay, pay what they can and always ask for the best that can be done. My advice is to accept business class when it is offered and to negotiate with vigor in every aspect of your professional life.

WalterBright 2 days ago | parent [-]

> It's like asking for less than you need or could get when negotiating pay for a job or position.

I disagree. It's chiseling.

If you don't like the deal you're getting, negotiate with your employer. If an agreement cannot be reached, it's time to part ways.

Disagreement does not make chiseling justifiable.

If you tell your friends and coworkers about the chiseling, they'll smile and nod, but they won't trust you any more.

borroka a day ago | parent [-]

I don't understand the "chiseling" aspect referred to.

The issue is quite simple. There is a certain budget that the company, person, or institution is willing to spend on a specific goal. If the money isn't spent on you, it's spent on someone else or something else. Since we're not talking about volunteering, my main goal is to maximize my return while maintaining my integrity and professionalism (e.g., without stealing, lying excessively [we all lie a bit, come on], or operating outside the ethical norms as dictated by common sense).

If the C-suite is flying first or business class, I feel encouraged to fly business or first class. If nobody is flying first or business, flying not in economy would not be ethical. But if they insist...