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donperignon 4 days ago

Ah telefonica… that’s Spanish, same company that every weekend blocks cloudfare in order to “avoid” football piracy. They don’t believe in laws, well they believe that laws are for the plebs not for them, the elites

SweetSoftPillow 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

It seems like more and more ISPs are doing that: https://koreanrandom.com/forum/topic/85072-modxvm-problem-in...

They also mention Movistar, O2, and Vodafone. A systematic violation of the internet's integrity, carried out on the scale of an entire so-called "free" EU(!) country. It's a disaster.

ErneX 4 days ago | parent [-]

It’s most, yes. Due to a court order. But Telefonica are the ones who owns the domestic broadcasting soccer rights this season and past.

GranPC 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not just Telefónica. Yesterday was a Saturday so I couldn't access a crapton of websites from any of 3 different ISPs. It's getting really old at this point.

diggan 4 days ago | parent [-]

> Yesterday was a Saturday so I couldn't access a crapton of websites from any of 3 different ISPs

Wait, is that why yesterday internet was so janky? Encountered multiple websites that seemed offline when visited from my home (Spain) Vodafone connection, but all my remote servers could still access them. In my decade+ of living here, never heard of them doing a "Ah today it's Saturday, lets block Cloudflare" thing until this very moment. Have any resources (Spanish or English) where I can read more about this? Fucking ridiculous if this is true.

GranPC 4 days ago | parent [-]

Yup. Been going on for a few months already. Here are some links:

https://www.eleconomista.es/tecnologia/noticias/13287968/03/...

https://vercel.com/blog/update-on-spain-and-laliga-blocks-of...

https://tebas.tv/

akk0 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I understand it's just rhetorics, but I am amused by the idea of some ISP managers considering themselves "the elites".

bapak 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

> the idea of some ISP managers considering themselves "the elites".

Can you lock millions of users out of Internet? If that's not elite in 2025, who is?

donperignon 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They are. Spanish organizations , the c-suite is always there by nepotism

fodmap 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You can say "the elites" in Telefonica case, because is heavily under the Spanish socialist party control.

Pedro Sanchez forced a public investment (€1134 billion) into that company using the SEPI so he can control Telefonica. Then he changed Telefonica president with a socialist pawn, inserted many socialist "elite" into the company, and as a cherry on top, he embedded Huawei inside Telefonica core systems.

fodmap a day ago | parent | next [-]

Adding Source.

Spain concludes purchase of 10% stake in Telefonica https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/spain-concludes-purcha...

anthk 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Lol at Tebas and LaLiga, so "socialists"...

Listen, kids, the higher you get into politics, the faster the textbooks (Marx, Smith, and antything in between) get tossed out of a window and drugs, prostitutes and hard power it's what matters.

Better if you don't know how actual politics work, because it that would be pure Realpolitiks. Imagine an 1984 and a Brave New World merded and psychos on top keeping the illusion because of raw power. You have that today.

The closest against to that would be the EFF, Richard Stallman, and hardcore groups and humanists working maybe for pride, but helping the rest of the society as the main social law (Golden Rule).

But we are not ready. We have a 'hardware' from Neolitics and a 'software' from the Space Era... no wonder the are wars and hardcore collisions between ideologies...