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mort96 a day ago

> The US getting 10% of Intel without any payment is very bad. Was there no shareholder vote?

I know that this is how it was reported everywhere including here, but I recently learned that it's apparently false. The US just bought shares. From https://www.reuters.com/business/us-take-10-equity-stake-int...:

> Under the agreement, the U.S. will purchase a 9.9% stake in Intel for $8.9 billion, or $20.47 per share, which represents a discount of about $4 from Intel's closing share price of $24.80 on Friday.

So they bought a 9.9% stake at a slight discount. (And just have to go back a couple of weeks to find Intel's stock price at under $20.47 per share, so I'm not sure you can really call it a real "discount").

hshdhdhj4444 a day ago | parent | next [-]

Much of that money is money that was granted by Congress already.

JumpCrisscross a day ago | parent | next [-]

> Much of that money is money that was granted by Congress already

Not to buy shares.

blooalien 19 hours ago | parent [-]

> "Not to buy shares."

And therein lies the problem. Trump and his cult up and changed the terms of the grant after the grant had already happened.

johanyc 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> The purchase of the 433.3 million Intel shares will be made with funding from the $5.7 billion in unpaid grants from the Biden-era CHIPS Act and $3.2 billion awarded to Intel for the Secure Enclave program, also awarded under Trump's predecessor, Democratic President Joe Biden.

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op00to a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How is $4 off the closing price not a discount?

mort96 a day ago | parent [-]

I don't know when the deal was agreed. Two weeks ago, on august 8th, the share price was $19.95, so if the price was set then, the US over-paid a bit.

I don't know how long it takes between when the price is set and when the deal becomes public. If the final price was set on friday, then yeah, there was a slight discount (though even then, the discount was within Intel's normal random short term share price fluctuations).

Maybe it's completely fair to call this a proper discount, I'm genuinely not familiar enough with the finance world to say. Regardless, I feel that this is important context; it's not like Intel's share price has been stable at between $24 and $25 per share for years and then the US comes in and buys at $20.

op00to a day ago | parent [-]

I suppose it’s a difference of viewpoint, but I understand what you’re getting at. Thanks for explaining it. I wouldn’t consider locking a mortgage at 6% and then having rates rise in the interim as a discount, maybe a lucky break!

jackstraw42 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

ah, so the government missed a dip and made their own. nice.