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prism56 4 days ago

I'm pretty new to AI and have access to a few models in Kagi. I just never know which to pick, kind of annoys me I might not be using the best

seeg 4 days ago | parent [-]

I use Kagi as well and, from my experiments, deepseek gives me answers I like the most.

brendoelfrendo 4 days ago | parent [-]

I also use the Kagi assistant, and one thing that this post inspired me to do was to test out some of the models with and without web access, and I encourage you to do the same. Qwen, for example, behaves completely differently when it's summarizing searches vs operating without that tool. I assume this has to do with how Kagi tells it to respond, but it seems to impact some models more than others.

prism56 4 days ago | parent [-]

Are the responses better or worse?

brendoelfrendo 4 days ago | parent [-]

I think that would require some testing and evaluation according to personal preference. My opinion is that Qwen 3 and Deepseek Chat v3.1 become much more concise when summarizing searches, but much less detailed. When used without the web search tool, they become more verbose (and express more "personality"), which may be less desirable in some contexts, but they also gave more informative answers. With Kimi K2 I seem to find the opposite; it really does well when analyzing search results (and really likes inserting tables to give break down its findings), and its "offline" version was much less detailed.

Oh, and an interesting finding: Kagi's selector indicates that they're offering Deepseek Chat v3.1's non-reasoning version, but when I ran it without web search it appears to have messed up and output some of its chain of thought, so it clearly is thinking.