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fastball 3 days ago

How do you mean? AFAICT computers can definitely do that.

Sure, it won't be the size of an ant, but we definitely have models running on computers that have much more complexity than the life of an ant.

Jensson 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

> Sure, it won't be the size of an ant, but we definitely have models running on computers that have much more complexity than the life of an ant.

Do we? Where is the model that can run an ant and navigate a 3d environment, parse visuals and different senses to orient itself, figure out where it can climb to get to where it needs to go. Then put that in an average forest and navigate trees and other insects and try to cooperate with other ants and find its way back. Or build an anthill, an ant can build an anthill, full of tunnels everywhere that doesn't collapse without using a plan.

Do we have such a model? I don't think we have anything that can do that yet. Waymo is trying to solve a much simpler problem and they still struggle, so I am pretty sure we still can't run anything even remotely as complex as an ant. Maybe a simple worm, but not an ant.

Fricken 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Having aptitude in mathematics was once considered the highest form of human intelligence, yet a simple pocket calculator can beat the pants off most humans at arithmetic tasks.

Conversely, something we regard as simple, such as selecting a key from a keychain and using to unlock a door not previously encountered is beyond the current abilities of any machine.

I suspect you might be underestimating the real complexity of what bees and ants do. Self-driving cars as well seemed like a simpler problem before concerted efforts were made to build one.

dragonwriter 3 days ago | parent [-]

> Having aptitude in mathematics was once considered the highest form of human intelligence, yet a simple pocket calculator can beat the pants off most humans at arithmetic tasks.

Mathematics has been a lot more than arithmetic for... a very long time.

Jensson 3 days ago | parent [-]

But arithmetics was seen as requiring intelligence, as did chess.