Well general intelligence in humans already exists, whereas general intelligence doesn't yet exist in machines. How do we know when we have it? You can't even simply compare it to humans and ask "is it able to do the same things?" because your answer depends on what you define those things to be. Surely you wouldn't say that someone who can't remember names or navigate without GPS lacks general intelligence, so it's necessary to define what criteria are absolutely required.

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tshaddox 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

> You can't even simply compare it to humans and ask "is it able to do the same things?" because your answer depends on what you define those things to be.

Right, but you can’t compare two different humans either. You don’t test each new human to see if they have it. Somehow we conclude that humans have it without doing either of those things.

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Jensson 3 days ago | parent [-]

> You don’t test each new human to see if they have it

We do, its called school and we label some humans with different learning disabilities. Some of those learning disabilities are grave enough that they can't learn to do tasks we expect humans to be able to learn, such humans can be argued to not posses the general intelligence we expect from humans.

Interacting with an LLM today is like interacting with an Alzheimer patient, they can do things they already learned well but poke at it and it all falls apart and they start repeating themselves, they can't learn.

	▲	tshaddox 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Yes, there are diseases, injuries, etc. which can impair a human’s cognitive abilities. Sometimes those impairments are so severe that we don’t consider the human to be intelligent (or even alive!). But note that we still make this distinction without anything close to a rigorous formal definition of general intelligence.

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jibal 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

How do we know when a newborn has achieved general intelligence? We don't need a definition amenable to proof.

	▲	Jensson 3 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Its a near clone of a model that already has it, we don't need to prove it has general intelligence we just assume it does because most do have it.
	▲	jibal 2 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		P.S. The response is just an evasion.