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| ▲ | isodev 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I would never have expected the US as the “capital of capitalism” to start managing their economy like a soviet country in 1975. | | |
| ▲ | kurthr 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | It's not socialism, it's corrupt state collaboration with capitalist corporations to suppress labor. That's fascism. Where state, employers, and workers collaborate through formal national
mechanisms to collectively manage the economy, prioritizing the needs of the
nation and protecting corporate interests while suppressing labor.
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| ▲ | phatskat 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Technically then they aren’t wrong to equate this to the USSR - it’s important to remember that both china and Russia are “transitioning” to communism, although both are kind of stuck in the in between phase where the people who should be ushering in that change found instead that they can wield authoritarian power to enrich themselves and subjugate others. Other side of things is you’re absolutely correct that this feels like a fascism, which is what this administration continues to feel like…over and over and over and over again | |
| ▲ | markus_zhang 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It’s sad to see the top 2 are going down similar economic routes TBH. | |
| ▲ | andsoitis 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > corrupt state collaboration with capitalist corporations to suppress labor. How does the Intel thing suppress labor? | | |
| ▲ | odo1242 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Probably that it gives one company (TSMC) a bigger monopoly on chip fabrication? Not the original commenter though |
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| ▲ | isodev 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | I didn’t say socialism. There was that but late Soviet Union was mostly corruption and oligarchy… very similar to the current theme in the US gov. |
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| ▲ | platevoltage 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The American people have been lied to for so long about what Socialism actually is to even be able to recognize it when it's happening right before their eyes. | | |
| ▲ | throwaway173738 3 days ago | parent [-] | | No this is what happens in authoritarian states all the time. Dear leader has a conversation with a “friend” and suddenly that friend’s enemies have some new limitation from the government. Socialism takes the form of generally higher taxes on profits from personal or corporate income which pay for things for the whole society. | | |
| ▲ | platevoltage 2 days ago | parent [-] | | So seizing the means of production is now something that Authoritarian Capitalists do, and socialism is just when taxes. Gotcha. |
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| ▲ | adventured 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | The US hasn't been anything remotely akin to the capital of Capitalism in more than half a century. The US has a hyper regulated, highly taxed economy, to go with a gigantic government. The capital of Capitalism would be the opposite in most every respect. Go back to the late 19th century in the US as one example, if you want to see low regulation and low taxation. | | |
| ▲ | acdha 3 days ago | parent [-] | | > The US has a hyper regulated, highly taxed economy, to go with a gigantic government This is pure hyperbole. I don’t know who told you that any of that is true but they’re taking advantage of your trust. |
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| ▲ | kragen 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Holy shit, somehow I missed Trump trying to sell half of Intel to a Chinese company that doesn't want it. TSMC is a great company, but this sounds disharmonious with Trump's jingoist and xenophobic rhetoric. The deal hasn't actually closed, though, has it? The linked page says, "However, TSMC is unlikely to agree to this proposal." | | |
| ▲ | heod749 3 days ago | parent [-] | | > somehow I missed Trump trying to sell half of Intel to a C̶h̶i̶n̶e̶s̶e̶ Taiwanese company that doesn't want it. fixed your typo | | |
| ▲ | meindnoch 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Is the US willing (and able?) to go to war for Taiwan? | | |
| ▲ | kragen 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I certainly hope not; we have known for 80 years that a war between two nuclear powers would be a tragedy unprecedented in human history. | |
| ▲ | selkin 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | It used to be, though the previous Trump administration xenophobia set it on a policy of reducing the support for Taiwan. Now their xenophobic tendencies against China are stronger. |
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| ▲ | nosianu 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | For how long though? The end of an independent Taiwan can't be just dismissed as a possible outcome at this point, no? | |
| ▲ | baobabKoodaa 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | You must mean "Taiwan, territory of China" /s |
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