Ah the good old "freedom to" that totally forgets that freedom also should contain a "freedom of". Free like in a chaotic war zone, where you can commit any kind of horrible attrocity, but if you just want to have a nice time, that isn't an option, because everybody behaves like an idiot. No thanks.

Freedom in reality isn't just a thing that you increase by reducing the rules. There comes a point where less rules result in less freedom. So it is always a balancing act between your freedom to do X and others freedom to not have to be subjected to X. Example: Giving up the freedom being able to murder random people is a little price to pay, if it means reducing the risk to be murdered yourself – especially since decent people wouldn't have the actionable urge to murder each other anyways. If you're a murderer however that may reduce your freedom in ways you dislike. But then, maybe, your freedom shouldn't matter as much.

Maybe I would care more about that specific idea of active freedom if I routinely wittnessed a real repression of any idea that isn't just the mean bullshit of egocentrics who have lost all touch with humanity and just want to see the world burn.

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jibal 3 days ago | parent [-]

I didn't say that I wanted a "freedom to" site, I'm just saying that the site is mischaracterized.

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atoav 3 days ago | parent [-]

And I saw a ton of racist, genozidal, sexualized and otherwise unhinged content that the worst people would think call "freedom".

So again, tell me what you're unfree to write there?

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jibal 2 days ago | parent [-]

I already said. And again, I'm not seeking that sort of freedom ... the one sort of freedom the site offers is freedom from moral consequence.

	▲	sebastiennight 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		It's not, sadly, because technological choices are ethical choices. Your site uses technologies that make it trivial for large entities (like Google) to know that person X living in Atlanta just posted a certain racially-charged diatribe. This might come back to bite them in the rear-end in the future, in ways that they don't suspect today, because this data is never getting deleted and might be available to untold numbers of private and state actors in the future.