I agree with your point that 5yrs is not "crazy good"

I have a mid 2014 15.6" Macbook Pro. It still runs fine. Apple doesn't support it though. I'm also not claiming 11 years is "crazy good" either.

On the opposite side though, I don't like giving old machines to non-techies. I'm actually planning to get rid of that 2014 MBP since it's sat plugged in but basically unused for 4 years, but I don't like the idea of a non-techie taking it and not getting security updates. If someone wanted it I'd prefer they know what they're getting. Sure it will view websites, run video from youtube, etc... but no support. Runs crazy hot too.

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phantomathkg 3 days ago | parent [-]

Why not recycle it? I thought Apple in general can trade in old device?

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udev4096 3 days ago | parent [-]

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tomhow a day ago | parent | next [-]

Can you just quit with this inane style of posting, littered with juvenile swipes like this:

> Crapple

> Keep coping apple fanboy

> it's not "your iCrap"

> winblows

> Clownflare

We've had to ask you to observe the guidelines before, and if anything your comments are only getting worse. HN is only a place where people want to participate because (at least some) others make an effort to keep the standards up. You seem intent on dragging HN into the gutter whilst also throwing out barbs at other community members or the community as a whole. It's not clever and it's not what HN is for. Please stop this, or we'll have to ban the account.

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udev4096 13 hours ago | parent [-]

I have created tons of posts which reached at top. The quality of HN members has deteriorated, stop calling me out. I can have my own acronyms, stop censoring my comments

	▲	tomhow 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The guidelines apply to equally everyone, and plenty of users who post highly-ranking submissions take care to observe the guidelines and contribute positively to the community in all their posts. People have been proclaiming the decline of HN's quality since months after its inception. It still keeps growing, and most importantly, keeps becoming a better place for showcasing new projects. Everyone can make the choice about whether their role on HN will be to raise the standards or to drag them downwards. The choice is yours, but consider that some of the people downvoting and flagging your comments are the users who are notable for consistently making the most positive contributions to HN over the long term.

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trinix912 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Which large hardware company is any better in this aspect?