LOL.. I was going to say after working in the tech industry.. half the time it is a rats nest in there.

There are excellent engineers.. but their are also many not so great engineers and once the sausage is made it usually isn't a pretty picture inside.

Usually only small young projects or maybe a beautiful component or two. Almost never an entire system/application.

exactly, as smart engineers end up having to work with midwits and it's not going to be pretty.