People are risking their lives and the lives of others, and a fine is supposed to be the thing that finally gets them to comply?

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Aurornis 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

This is what the points system is for.

Any individual infraction might only be a small fine, but it adds points to your license. Collect enough points and you risk license suspension.

I’ve known a couple people who got close to having enough points for license suspension. They drove perfectly for years.

	▲	jakogut 3 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		That sounds reasonable to me. Everybody makes mistakes, but nobody should be consistently making grievous mistakes capable of causing serious injury or death to other motorists on a regular basis. I'm less concerned with a little speeding than I am with blowing through lights and stop signs.
	▲	SoftTalker 3 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I think in most areas with cameras where fines are automatically assesed to the vehicle owner (who is not necessarily the driver), there are no points. That way it's just a civil penalty and the burden of proof is low. "We have a photo" is enough.

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Permit 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes.

If they run a red light today there is some small chance they will injure/kill someone.

If they run a red light with a camera, there is a 100% chance they will receive a ticket.

The key factor is not the magnitude of the penalty (i.e. whether someone dies or they receive a fine) but the chance that they will encounter the penalty.

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setgree 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You've got me: I believe that people respond to financial incentives. I don't think this is a radical position.