I tried out one project because of these attributes and then scrapped it fairly quickly in favor of rust. Not enough type safety, too much verbosity. Too much fucking "if err != nil".

The language sits in an awkward space between rust and python where one of them would almost always be a better choice.

But, google rose colored specs...

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Mawr 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

> Not enough type safety

Sure? Depends on use case.

> too much verbosity

Doesn't meaningfully affect anything.

> Too much fucking "if err != nil".

A surface level concern.

> The language sits in an awkward space between rust and python where one of them would almost always be a better choice.

Rust doesn't have a GC so it's stuck to its systems programming niche. If you want the ergonomics of a GC, Rust is out.

Python? Good, but slow, packaging is a joke, dynamic typing (didn't you mention type safety?), async instead of green threads, etc., etc.

	▲	pydry 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		>packaging is a joke You should see what package management was like for golang in the beginning "just pin a link to github". That was probably one of the most embarrassing technical faux pass ive ever seen. >dynamic typing Type hinting works very well in python and the option to not use it when prototyping is useful. >Rust doesn't have a GC so it's stuck to its systems programming niche. The lack of GC makes it faster than golang. It has a better type system also. If speed is really a concern, using golang doesnt make much sense.

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christophilus 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I’m almost with you. If there was a language with a fast compiler, excellent tooling, a robust standard library, static binaries, and an F#-like type system, I’d never use anything else.

Rust simply doesn’t cut it for me. I’m hoping Roc might become this, but I’m not holding my breath.

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gf000 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

OCaml? Possibly Haskell as well?

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pydry 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Compiler could be faster, I guess but apart from that Rust has all of those things.

	▲	christophilus 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		I find Rust's stdlib to be lacking vs Go, and so the average Rust project has a lot of dependencies. To me, Rust feels like the systems-programming equivalent to Node + NPM. Also, the compilation speed was really painful last time I used it. I'm used to the speed of Zig, Hare, Go, Bun. Rust makes me want to jab myself in the eye with a spork.