▲ | feoren 4 days ago | |||||||
> Which of these is more essential for human life? ... So you do acknowledge the actual definition ... And you don't acknowledge the actual definition, or you would have been asking about price elasticity, not what is or is not essential for human life. Plenty of people will give up Chinese takeout before they give up GPUs. > Food, or a luxury car? The luxury car, because it's grandma's old classic that Tom has kept in good enough shape to drive to his job, and he doesn't know how he'll get there when it finally breaks down, but he doesn't really have a penchant for fancy food and gets by with some cheap staples he prepares at home. > Basic medicine, or a trip to a casino? The trip to the casino, because Judy is getting evicted, and doesn't have any friends or family she can stay with, and won't survive the winter on the street, and hitting it big at Blackjack is unlikely, but desperate times call for desperate measures. And although she does sometimes take Tylenol for headaches, she's otherwise in good health and doesn't have any ongoing medicinal needs. What are we doing? You're deciding what other people need for their lives? > Rich people also don't behave logically, for the record. Of course they do, because however they behave, they have an army of op-ed writers, sycophants, and apologists who spew out post-hoc justification for their behavior, and viola, their behavior turns out to have been rational all along. Meanwhile, if the poor (and we are always talking about the poor when we are talking about "essential") stubbornly show an unwillingness to stop purchasing some good that some economist has decided is "non-essential", they're villainized and called irrational. Many of them even have refrigerators! > It's almost like this class war you're describing is a figment of your imagination. You choose now, in 2025, to deny that there's a class war? That's certainly a take. | ||||||||
▲ | bpt3 3 days ago | parent [-] | |||||||
> And you don't acknowledge the actual definition, or you would have been asking about price elasticity, not what is or is not essential for human life. Plenty of people will give up Chinese takeout before they give up GPUs. You just listed two examples of discretionary items (prepared food is generally not considered a consumer staple). > The luxury car, because it's grandma's old classic that Tom has kept in good enough shape to drive to his job, and he doesn't know how he'll get there when it finally breaks down, but he doesn't really have a penchant for fancy food and gets by with some cheap staples he prepares at home. You're 0 for 2. That's not a luxury car, unless Grandma had a love of rare exotics that he should probably sell to buy food and a reliable car. > The trip to the casino, because Judy is getting evicted, and doesn't have any friends or family she can stay with, and won't survive the winter on the street, and hitting it big at Blackjack is unlikely, but desperate times call for desperate measures. And although she does sometimes take Tylenol for headaches, she's otherwise in good health and doesn't have any ongoing medicinal needs. And now you're 0 for 3. Your earlier comments are making more sense. > What are we doing? You're deciding what other people need for their lives? Most humans understand what is essential to sustain human life and what is not. In fact, every functioning adult I've ever met does. The implications of the fact that you don't can be left for you or other readers to decuce. > Of course they do, because however they behave, they have an army of op-ed writers, sycophants, and apologists who spew out post-hoc justification for their behavior, and viola, their behavior turns out to have been rational all along. > Meanwhile, if the poor (and we are always talking about the poor when we are talking about "essential") stubbornly show an unwillingness to stop purchasing some good that some economist has decided is "non-essential", they're villainized and called irrational. Many of them even have refrigerators! Not remotely true. > You choose now, in 2025, to deny that there's a class war? That's certainly a take. Whether there is or isn't a class war is debatable, but the one you've concocted that is led by economists is certainly not happening. | ||||||||
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