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StopDisinfo910 21 hours ago

The whole point of the article you are commenting on is discussing the history of the notion of Eretz Yisrael, a political point which has always existed in Israel and has become significant after Netanyahu recent interview - certainly not a “Western fantasy” - and confront it with how it was applied during Israel history.

No one is discussing than Ben-Gurion did use borders as a négociation tool. But Likud’s 1977 platform also exists and the “Yinon plan”.

The main question is how relevant is the concept to Israel current political environment and ambitions.

I have no comment to make about your last paragraph. I fear we have reached the point where history will have to be the judge.

idiomat9000 17 hours ago | parent [-]

My whole argument is that "great israel" as an idea in a democracy never had any vetoing power aka any blockung majority. Its as relevant to israel as "nazi-moonbases" are to the western world. Its loud cringe fringe ignored. What Israel wants most of all is peace , because war with a reservist army hurts its economy. Yet, it has been at war with the islamo-supremacists in the arab world forever and a day. Israel has to deal with the reality it faces, not the make a wish realities into which large parts of the west retreat every time they look at the world without looking at it . Thus here we go.. again and again.. the wheelchair war, were your retarded neighbor tries to run you over again and again no matter what you offer..

StopDisinfo910 6 hours ago | parent [-]

> Its as relevant to israel as "nazi-moonbases" are to the western world

Demonstrably false and actually discussed by the article you are commenting on.

> What Israel wants most of all is peace

Israel is currently committing a genocide. You should be ashamed of yourself for writing the comment you just wrote.