> Could anyone here waxing lyrically about Apple so called privacy stand explain to me what that actually is apart from a marketing point Apple keeps repeating?

The end-to-end encryption guarantees on this page seem pretty real to me and have little to do with marketing: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102651

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lern_too_spel 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Google backup on Android is also end-to-end encryption. The difference is that on Android, I can self-host anything that Apple won't end-to-end encrypt, like maps or application installs.

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snypher 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Can any of this be verified or confirmed independently?

	▲	atomicthumbs 5 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		how do you propose they prove that they don't have your encryption keys
	▲	ritcgab 5 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		You just cannot prove a party doesn't own something.